Homeowners should be willing to go toe to toe with their tormentors — foreclosure mills acting on behalf of investment banks and companies pretending to be servicers. You need not believe that there is no loan account; you just need to act like that is true and you will probably achieve a satisfactory result. This is only fair. Your opposition has no loan account but is pretending there is one.
The only thing transferred in connection with documents produced at events labeled as “loan closings” is that the rights to claim administration, collection and enforcement are transferred. This does not in fact ever transfer servicing rights and it expressly does not transfer the purported obligation of homeowners.
This brilliant strategy is what enables the control over everythign from originations to modifications, forebearances, and foreclosures to be maintained but not legally vested in the investment banks that were the underwriters, bookrunners and sellers of certificates. There is no loan forgiveness because there are no loans.
Servicing righst are NOT transferred because there are no servicing rights if there is no principal or creditor who owns the udenrlying obligation. Nobody can claim that they have been granted authority to enforce if that authority did not come from either the owner of the alleged underlying obligation (if it is alleged) or someone who was given that authority by the owner of the alleged underlying obligation (i.e., in this case, the implied — but never stated —unpaid loan account).
The key error made by nearly veryone is that the “records” of the company named as servicer, even if they were records of transctions that were conducted by that company, are not evidence of the status of the unpaid loan accont on the books or records of the company that is supposedly holding the obligation as an asset.
Read the following document, along with my early posts on this blog. You will see that the contracts, the intention, and the actions of the Wall Street Players were NEVER structured or written to transfer, sell or purchase any loan accounts due to anyone. This fact is so counterintuitive that anyone who lacks direct experience in investment banking will usually recoil from it and reject it out of hand. Such a person then proceeds down a rabbit hole beautifully engineered by investment bankers and their lawyers. And that is our current status quo.
The document is an Assignment and Assumption Agreement, which is not generally available any longer. Most of them simply ceded control over all aspects of any application for a loan such that the Assignor is merely a front for the Assignee. The Assignor is called the originator of the transaction, and the transaction is referred to as a loan.
But the Assignor never loans any money and, therefore, cannot factually or l legally sell the rights acquired from the execution of the closing documents — except the rights to control claims for administration, collection, and enforcement (sans ownership).
In the law, ownership of the underlying obligation is required to enforce the note and the mortgage. It cannot be claimed in foreclosure without first pleading and proving payment of value for the underlying obligation (regardless of whether it is the outcome of a loan transaction or if it is the product of a different kind of transaction mislabeled as a loan).
The obligation must exist, regardless of label, for anyone to claim rights to administer, collect or enforce it. One may not claim an obligation exists without proving that it exists and that the enforcer either owns it or possesses the right to enforce it.
This brings me into conflict with virtually very court in the land — all of whom will be red-faced when it is revealed that they failed to do their homeowner and have played a crucial role in undermining the U.S. economy by allowing foreclosure based upon nonexistent claims. Whether they did so intentionally or under threat from the Federal government or Wall Street is irrelevant for the homeowners who lost their biggest investment or were threatened with that loss.
There is no case in the entire world of securitization in which anyone has ever proved that they were a holder in due course. It is a rare bird where even the allegation is made. If anyone made that allegation, they would need to prove it.
And the elements for a holder in due course of a note are possession and a right to enforce the note, secured by payment for the underlying obligation (e.g., the unpaid loan account held as an asset of the company named as creditor/claimant or Plaintiff/beneficiary by the foreclosure mill who is telling that lie under cover of litigation immunity). The lawyers are protected because they do not know for an absolute fact that what they are saying is untrue.
NOTE: Recent events in the news indicate that lawyers can still get in trouble if they don’t know what they are saying is true. In an odd juxtaposition, they might not be disciplined for breaching the ethical and disciplinary rules governing lawyers, but they certainly need lawyers to protect themselves from being indicted for obstruction of justice).
But that is only in a criminal investigation. Millions of fraudulent foreclosures could be investigated and result in criminal charges. So far, law enforcement has skipped that beat, leaving the courts and the victims to decide civil liability based upon the very low threshold of “more like than not” (preponderance of the evidence) rather than the higher burdens of proof of either “clear and convincing” or “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
In most cases, after brow-beating me, my persistence pays off. The foreclosure mill cannot corroborate the most basic elements of their case. To prevail, they must prove that the truth of the matter asserted is sufficiently supported by the evidence. They can not do that regardless of how much they try to convince you, your lawyer, and the court that they should not be required to do so.
The “argument” offered against me has failed far more often than it ever succeeded. It is that the claimant does not need to prove that they own the loan — or, that anyone owns a loan, that the owner of the claim is irrelevant, and that it doesn’t matter whether or not the servicer’s “records” show the status of the unpaid loan account as an asset on the books for the designated “creditor.”
In short, they argue that the foreclosure mill need only prove that the homeowner was making scheduled payments and stopped. That, they argue, is reason enough for ANYONE TO ANNOUNCE A DEFAULT, AND THEN, AS THE ANNOUNCER, IT IS ENOUGH FOR THEM TO ENFORCE THE CLAIMED OBLIGATION. They say that the fact that the obligation is not owed to them or anyone they know is not just irrelevant; it is also protected, privileged, proprietary, and confidential information.
They’re saying that having gained information about the documents signed by the homeowner, they have every right to administer and enforce them. If this was true, anyone with knowledge of the affairs of any other person could claim the right to administer, collect and enforce those documents. That has never been the law, and hopefully, it will never be the law in a society based upon the rule of law.
They argue — and most courts agree at first — that they only need to show possession of an image of the promissory note. From that image, it is presumed that “they” have possession of the original note in their possession even if they never produce it (even at trial or upon sale of the property) because, despite foreclosure, the securitization infrastructure remains just as it would if there had not been a foreclosure.
Nobody loses money when one homeowner stops making scheduled payments. The only parties who risk loss are the investment banks if many homeowners stop paying, demonstrating what everyone except the courts seems to know. There is no lender or successor lender and no unpaid loan account because part of the scheme was to avoid lender liability. You can’t be a lender or successor if you never owned the account. Thus you can never be liable for violating lending and servicing laws.
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This is also why The AOMs are usually always created by 3rd party Robosigning companies such as Security Connections and NTC and never by the AOM company on the fraudulent documents. I’ve been down to the clerks office over 50 times. They acknowledge all the discrepancies that I point out yet they say they are only required to Match THE 4 POINTS on the documents and they refuse to help and always say I need to go to court. Where of course I object to documents and am told I cannot as a 3RD PARTY to the transaction.
Time for The People to end this Corrupt Ponzi System.
Enough is Enough!!!!!!!!!!
Anon your right the county registers allow anything to be recorded breaking states statutes and then they want you to get an attorney to go to court to challenge the document. I present a letter from the bank and FDIC as to the date the mortgage loan was sold which was before the Deed of Trust (DOT) was delivered and recorded.
Clearly you cannot create a lien against the property if your not owed monies but you also cannot assign the DOT to another after you sold the debt. I don’t get if how the very bank that submit the DOT provides a letter confirming the sale date the before the recording of the DOT by submitting party why would we need to take it to court as to the recording being wrong?
So before this issue came to light 7yrs after the recording, behind the scene the correspondent bank in Washington Mutual Bank (WAMU) caught the fact there was not an assignment of DOT in the bank mortgage loan file that had been in the Ginnie pooling a few days after the loan had been purchased from the originator.
So we been back and forth about this DOT that I lodged complaints and also the fact of the lack of assignment of DOT to WAMU who stopped existing on Sept 25, 2008, but on Oct 222, 2009, Wells is submitting a assignment saying they paid value for the freaking loan from the origiantor.
So this brings up what Neil is saying to go back to the beginning which I did over the weekend and to my surprise was a smoking gun sitting in the county register on-line records was the Limited Power of Attorney (POA) addressing this situation from the originator and WAMU about not cresting and providing the Assignment of DOT drafted in Nov 2005 but not recorded until Sept 2007 when in fact the new servicer was transferring illegally all of WAMU’s Fed Gov Backed mortgage loans to protect Ginnie Mae position.
Why did not the originator just create an assignment back in 2005 when the issue first was brought up? Because as in 2003 the DOT was recorded after the originator sold the loan and in fact WAMU no longer owed the loan because they used the UCC3 procedure to transfer the mortgage Note to Ginnie per requirements of the Ginnie MBS pooling. Now after WAMU stopped existing Wells who somehow is still considered the mortgage servicer saying they pay value for the loan a year after WAMU no longer exist and foreclose as the lender ROBO signing the Assignment DOT to non-judicially foreclose using the same attorney mill foreclosure law firm as in the Holm v Wells and Freddie Mac!
That is all correct Poppy. A big problem is the recorded discharge/satisfaction recorded in counties across the country. These documents are for prior transactions in which NOTHING is satisfied BY THE HOMEOWNER/Borrower. In fact, most say “OR otherwise satisfied” – suggesting other means of a payoff by the borrower. They are false. Examination of those entities and tracing of “payoff” will clearing disclose – nothing funded, nothing satisfied by homeowner, and nothing ever took place at subsequent transaction as by claimed transaction of “pay-off” by the borrower. Which means – there is no mortgage. Never was. Poppy is also correct — nothing more than a “populated sheet of paper with random debits and credits” that are not accounted for by anyone – (there is usually no header as to where came from). There are “servicers” but NOT mortgage servicers as claimed. They are nothing more than debt collection claimed entities that use a variety of vendors to hide the claimed debt collector (false) claimed creditor that goes way back. All absolutely false. Courts go too much by what is (wrongfully) recorded. Problems begin with county recording registrars. They take anything and courts take as the bible. MIckey Mouse – you can record! All okay!! Anything goes!!! Up to our politicians to fix. They don’t. Thank you Poppy.
ANON and I have been saying this for years. Nothing in the recent filings has any merit. The origin is where all the misinformation, deception and/or “alleged” assignments took place. If you go all the way back, the payment history is littered with conflicting balances, they say you owe. That alone should be a flag for the judge. The “alleged assignments” conflict with the time frames,rules of the trust they claim is suing you. In some cases, the people named do not even exist. There are no actual “witnesses” that can attest to anything, other than a populated sheet of paper, with random debits and credits.
Time and time again our losses occur if they say “you signed” the mortgage, note. There is no scrutiny on behalf of the “debt collection” processors or who they work for. Guarantee, most of the law firms, lawyers, have never met their clients and have no idea whether of not your loan was even funded at origin. They do not care, nor does the court.