Moratoriums Extended: That Doesn’t Mean You Won’t Be Out On the Street Or Living With Relatives

Governor Ron DeSantis (R) Florida, issued a new order extending the moratoriums on foreclosures and evictions.

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The investment banks on Wall Street like this turn of events because they no longer need to lie orally to homeowners in order to get them to fall behind in payments. Their goal is foreclosure and eviction mostly except for abandoned properties after foreclosure which are called Zombie properties.

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Practically everyone who has had an issue with mortgage payments has heard the familiar refrain: “you don’t qualify for a modification because you are not delinquent in your payments. You must be at least 90 days behind in payments before you should submit your application for a modification.”

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Since it was oral communication (not written) and either not recorded or the recording is later destroyed, the foreclosure mills, hiding behind litigation immunity are free to deny that the homeowner ever received that information — which by the way is practicing law without a license (a felony in many states).

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Judges hearing that story are very skeptical of that story even though it is true. They are skeptical because why would any creditor want a “borrower” or obligor to not pay them? Why would anyone want to lose money in a transaction? It just doesn’t make sense to judges, which is why Mr. Reyes from Deutsche bank got away with it when he said the entire securitization system is “counter-intuitive.”

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The Judge’s attitude comes with the assumption that he/she is dealing with an actual creditor. If you drop that assumption everything makes sense. The only way a non-creditor can make money is by pretending to be a creditor and foreclosing on a property in which it has no interest — and of course getting away with it.

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The bonus is that once the foreclosure is successful it has a legal presumption of validity which means that all prior illegal acts are subsumed into the foreclosure.

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So don’t believe the moratorium any more than you believe the tune that you must stop making payments in order to qualify for a modification. The banks are counting on you spending money that would have otherwise gone to making payments such that when the 90 day period is over or when the moratorium is over you are so far behind that you cannot catch up.

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That is exactly what the banks want even though that seems crazy to the casual observer, including judges.

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Now if you are already involved in foreclosure there is nothing but confusion as to the effect of the roders on moratoriums. Exactly what do they stop?  We don’t know.

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But most judges are interpreting the orders as meaning they can hear nothing on any foreclosure or eviction which is probably correct — or else there will be a landslide of motions seeking to set aside orders granted while the moratorium was in effect.

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But I wonder if a motion to compel discovery or demands for discovery are still allowed. I think they might be.

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And I repeat for the umteenth time that you can’t prove anything against the foreclosure mill or any supposed client of the foreclosure mill. You don’t have the evidence or data. I issue that reminder because everyone who loses their fight against the foreclosure mill comes to the same erroneous conclusion: they can’t win. They skip the part about having gone down the wrong path.

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The winning strategy, every time is based upon the knowledge, not the evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the foreclosure mill and its “clients.”

The winning strategy is simply challenging the assertions, implied references, assumptions of fact, and presumptions at law through the proper and timely use and enforcement of discovery.

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That means crafting discovery questions that are simple, easy to understand and that can be defended as being central to the issue of ownership and authority over the underlying obligation. People seem to avoid getting proper help from a knowledgeable source on drafting discovery. It also means that you have a memorandum of law ready with citations to statutes, rules of procedure and cases interpreting those rules in which you should clearly and convincingly that your questions are simply designed to test the basic question that a creditor or representative of a creditor is present in court.

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The people that claim they cannot get answers in the discovery process are missing the point. If your opposition could answer those questions without admitting they have no claim they would do so. But they don’t. So when you DON’T get answers, that begins your journey toward revealing and demanding an inference that the foreclosure mill has no basis to assert or imply that the foreclosure will result in payment against a debt on the books of some creditor — i.e., a creditor who is the claimant/beneficiary in a nonjudicial foreclosure or the plaintiff in a judicial foreclosure.

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Neil F Garfield, MBA, JD, 73, is a Florida licensed trial attorney since 1977. He has received multiple academic and achievement awards in business and law. He is a former investment banker, securities broker, securities analyst, and financial analyst.*

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3 Responses

  1. I can repeat umteenth time that you can’t prove anything against the foreclosure mill because Judges don’t care and they are not going to listen to homeowners and their lawyers, maybe very rarely.

    Discovery – Banks lawyers will tell that all questions are not relevant – and Judges will happily agree.

    Banks present a payment history which can be made by anyone who knows about someone’s debt – plus some bogus affidavit with robo-stamped assignment and judges will kick out “homeowner” on the street.

    I saw it too many times

    if everybody knows that Banks commit massive fraud, why Judges still allow and enable it?

  2. Like I have said over and over again. There has to be a force to fight and expose the lying, deceitful paper mills and to now it looks lilke they are impenetrable – this is really sad and probably part of our own governments tricks and ploys!!! Semper Fi.

  3. Wholeheartedly agree…..DISCOVERY is everything….depositions done presciently with cheat sheets will torpedo great numbers of defenses since the pmq’s selected by the bank to testify don’t know all of the facts or get them wrong. We assisted in a NJ case where the PMQ knew “nothing” about the note or mortgage. The MSJ has been sitting on the magistrate judge’s desk for over 6 months without a ruling we expect to come any day after Covid 19 mitigates.

    Don’t let the discovery opportunity be ignored. Get help from Neil or someone who knows the process. It makes a huge difference.

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