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EDITOR’S NOTE: The storm has created some hardship on the people who are on the front line for you. So get down there with extra stuff they might need for warmth, protection from the elements, and other accessories. Bankers are hopeful that the weather will break the back of the Occupy movement. Let’s make sure they are wrong, again.

New York (CNN) — Demonstrators encamped in a Lower Manhattan park faced New York’s first snow storm of the season Saturday without the benefit of propane tanks and generators that they had been using to cook food and keep warm.

“It’s pretty dirty, and we’re all freezing cold,” said Alec Courtney, who says he runs a shoe-shine stand at the city’s Zuccotti Park to make money. “We just try to huddle together.”

Courtney, a resident of the New York City borough of Brooklyn, says he’s been camping at the park for the past 20 days and plans to stay there — despite the inclement weather — to support “the cause.”

The group has rallied against what it describes as corporate greed while asserting that the nation’s wealthiest 1% hold inordinate sway over the remaining 99% of the population.

A day earlier, up to 40 firefighters removed the group’s propane tanks and six generators, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. That left the demonstrators to battle the cold weather seeping through their tents, blankets and sleeping bags.

“These are fire hazards (and) against the law,” Bloomberg said during his weekly WOR-AM radio show Friday. “Our first concern is safety.”

Demonstrators described the removal as an attempt to restrict Internet use and make their lives more difficult as a cold front moved into the region.

Early cold blast hits Northeast

The early season snowstorm was the result of unseasonably cold air mixing with a storm system on the East Coast. Forecasters predicted power outages and downed trees in some areas.

Zuccotti Park — the Occupy Wall Street movement’s original home base in the city’s financial district — appeared soaked and windswept by late Saturday afternoon, as protesters battled the elements and huddled inside tents to keep warm and dry.

Despite such challenges and recent crackdowns against demonstrators nationwide, the loosely defined “Occupy” movement does not appear to be losing steam.

Police fired pepper spray and used pepper-ball guns against demonstrators in Denver, Colorado, on Saturday.

Protesters there tried to occupy the Colorado Capitol, which is not allowed, and officers pushed them back, police spokesman Matt Murray said.

At that point, officers moved toward an encampment to remove tents that had been set up illegally, he said. One officer was knocked off his motorcycle and injured, while two others were kicked in the head during the ensuing melee, according to Murray. Seven people were arrested.

Freezing out Occupy protesters?

Atlanta protester: Government broken

Murray said police are telling protesters they can stay, but their tents have to go.

“All we’re trying to do is have a peaceful protest and they (the police) are attacking us,” protester Sean Drigger told CNN affiliate KUSA.

In Seattle, protesters marched through the city and set up camp at Seattle Central Community College, what they described as their new base.

In Nashville, Tennessee, authorities arrested more than two dozen protesters overnight Saturday, after they again defied a curfew imposed by the state’s governor.

Twenty-six people received citations for trespassing, while two others were cited for public intoxication, according to Tennessee public safety spokeswoman Dalya Qualls.

One other person was handed a citation for criminal impersonation of a law enforcement officer, she said.

On Thursday, Oakland, California, Mayor Jean Quan apologized for authorities’ confrontations with demonstrators, who were tear-gassed. The clashes led to the hospitalization of an Iraq war veteran.

Marine veteran Scott Olsen suffered a skull fracture Tuesday night after allegedly being struck by a tear gas canister in Oakland, according to witnesses.

Olsen has become an icon of the “Occupy” movement, which remains active from coast to coast.

5 Responses

  1. I have soo much respect and gratitude for all the people who are putting themselves out there for this most worthy cause. They are making soo much personal sacrifice, and it will not be easy with the winter months coming up. Thank you and you all are in my prayers every night.

  2. Someone could also file for all these people their UCC-1 statements so they would all become sovereigns ….LOL…

    What do you think of THAT idea?

    They would not be subject to the strawman antics of the public entities.

  3. Some body some where with some money should start building up a better camp for the protesters, other wise, many of them will get sick or even freeze without proper heating equipments. Or perhaps they should migrate west for the winter so they can stay the course and survive the winter as well. This year’s winter is coming on earlier and stronger than usual, I do also hope that NY Mayor recognize the protesters as people too, and provide aid and shelter for them, after all they are doing this country a great service.

    Let’s see how the rest of the country deals with this issue because things are not going to get easier as the winter approaches. I can almost see a new name for the cross, “GREEN CROSS”, instead of RED CROSS or BLUE CROSS, people would give in the spirit of the holidays and the movement with food and clothing, medical supplies, etc. Let’s get one started shall we!

  4. This is the situation the banks have put a great many people in. Bankers are not very bright, the way I see it. Modifications and reductions in principle, in most cases would eliminate the need for them to “claim” they are losing money, which is not the case. They have done a very good PR campaign to make people think they are poor things and being victimized. Baloney, they are victims of their own behavior. Unfortunately, millions of us are suffering needlessly because of their greed.

  5. Strategic Default, Then Buy a House Down the Street

    Posted on October 29, 2011 by Mark Stopa

    I received a fantastic question from a reader, and it’s worth blogging about.

    Question:

    Mark,
    We purchased a house back in 06’ for 185k (still owe 170k)….houses are selling for 80k on my block now. If I buy a house on my block for 80k and move to it, can I “walk-away” from the one I bought in 06’?,, in doing so I will save more than 50% on my monthly house payment and will be able to pay the house off in 7 years.
    I will really appreciate an advice on this situation.
    Thanks in advance.

    My Answer:

    There is nothing stopping you from buying the house down the street, moving in, declaring it your homestead, and defaulting on your current mortgage. Obviously, your current mortgage company would sue you at some point, but, frankly, the only reason you should care is the potential for a deficiency judgment (i.e. the possibility you’d owe the bank $90K more, even after getting foreclosed – 90K being the difference between what it’s worth and what you still owe).

    So how much does the potential deficiency judgment matter?

    First off, Florida has homestead protection, so, no matter what, you can buy another house, move in, declare it your homestead, and live securely, knowing that house is protected. You’d just need to do so before the foreclosure on your current home is finalized.

    The bigger concern is whether that deficiency judgment would impact your life in other ways. Whether it’s worth the risk depends on your situation. Generally, I think it is worth the risk, but, again, it depends. For instance …

    If you don’t have a lot in the way of income/assets, you may eliminate this deficiency through bankruptcy, if not now, then in the future. If that’s your scenario, then this approach probably makes sense.

    If you’re approaching retirement, don’t have a lot of income/assets, and are just looking for a house you can live in the rest of your life, then a deficiency judgment doesn’t mean much – it’s probably little more than a piece of paper. In that case, this approach also makes sense.

    If you’re willing to take the gamble of trying to get the bank to waive the deficiency, or hope it never pursues it, then it makes sense. Some people are more tolerant of risk than others.

    It makes less sense for people who are younger and have a lot of other income/assets. You’d hate to employ this approach, get foreclosed, get a deficiency judgment entered, and have the bank start taking your other assets.

    If you’re in that latter category, my suggestion would be this. Buy the house and prepare yourself for that worst-case scenario (even if it means setting aside the monthly payments or the entire deficiency amount in a separate account). If the worst-case scenario unfolds, and you wind up owing the deficiency, then, well, you knew it was possible and you prepared for it. If it doesn’t happen, and you avoid a deficiency, then you will have drastically improved your financial situation, as that money you’ve set aside will be yours to keep and you’ll have eliminated a huge liability (the 90K deficiency). In a way, if you can view it like that, there’s no downside – it’s only upside.
    Mark Stopa

    http://www.stayinmyhome.com

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