SNEAK VOTING 11-17-10: CALL TO ARMS!!! HERE THEY COME AGAIN: CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND SENATOR!!!

UPDATE – H.R. 3808 Will Be Voted on to Override or Uphold the Presidents Veto Tomorrow

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AND NOW THEY ARE TRYING AGAIN—-

THIS IS BASICALLY THEIR SHOT AT TURNING WHAT WAS ILLEGAL INTO LEGAL. ALL AMERICANS SHOULD BE APPALLED. THIS BILL IF PASSED WILL MAKE EVERYTHING THE BANKS DID LEGAL. IT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF AN UNCONDITIONAL PRESIDENTIAL PARDON AND WOULD ALLOW FORECLOSURES TO DESTROY WHAT IS LEFT OF OUR ECONOMY.

SEE ALSO PARDON! LIVINGLIES OBTAINS WALL STREET PLAYBOOK: MERS TO BE LEGITIMIZED BY ACT OF CONGRESS

SEE ALSO FORECLOSUREGATE AND OBAMA’S ‘POCKET VETO’

SEE ALSO 5% SOLUTION: BANKS FRANTIC FOR PARDON (EXEMPTION)

SEE ALSO CROWDSOURCING: Blog Readers Getting Together To Hunt Down The PARDON BILLS


40 Responses

  1. massachuetts remained unanimous all 10 voted nay. Only a couple other states can declare this. THANKYOU !

  2. Procedural or not, their archnemesis Obama had to rescue them from their own stupidity of voting basically unanimously (R & D), on a voice vote, for this trash legislation.

    These so-called Republicans can’t take chances with our homes; to make some absolutely useless, spiteful point to Obama, risking even a 1% chance with our mortgage fraud exposes.

    We can’t excuse what is not excusable.

    Hold them deeply accountable till they permanently repent, and run like h— from Ponzi Money Supplies, MBS decoupled banking, and the endless cover-ups that entails. I renounce these Republicans and abetting Dems, until they man up.

    Man up to our Bill of Rights as written, while you’re at it.

  3. This vote may have been procedural. I have highlighted part of the Yves post on Naked Capitalism after the link.

    See the full post at
    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/11/hr-3808-interstate-recognition-of-notarization-concerns-appear-overblown.html

    The good news is, per a source on the Hill firmly in the anti-bank camp, that this move is strictly procedural, an objection to Obama’s use of the so-called pocket veto rather than an effort to revive the measure. From a Constitutional perspective, a pocket veto is not a legitimate action, but it can’t be overridden by Congress. The House vote is effectively a complaint, tantamount to, “We accept your veto of this bill, but it’s not a pocket veto because those don’t exist.”

    FireDogLake provided a similar take as of earlier today; my source did further checking and confirmed that this move is strictly procedural, and not an effort to revive the measure.

  4. Here are the names.

    http://4closurefraud.org/2010/11/17/victory-on-h-r-3808-vote-so-who-is-who-and-what-is-what/

    NEVER AGAIN.
    BE STRONG AND COURAGEOUS

  5. Although I raised as a ‘Republican’ all my life, including as college DC intern.

    About 167 Establishment Republicans* sold us out!, except Ron Paul and a few others.

    The jury is out on the Tea Party newbies.

    Screw you rotten Republican Party.
    You are Whore from Hell.
    Lying hypocritical tongues, that I will expose all my days.
    You are like the diseased cheating harlot wife.
    Truth will nip at your filthy heels all your days.
    I repudiate you in shame.

    This ‘Republican Party’ is pure un-American trash. A terrorist to the world.

    Tell a friend!! Lots of them!

    * http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll573.xml

  6. Here’s the roll call for the vote:
    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll573.xml

  7. we need the names of all the drones that voted for.

    According to http://www.market-ticker.org

    all Sold out republicans voted for H.R 3808 live and learn America, know and understand who your real enemies are

  8. Phew s very scary day. Never let your guard down never again

  9. I’m relieved to know it didn’t pass. A big thanks to all those that made an effort to squash it.

  10. Finding out who voted yea/nay is easy:

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll573.xml

    By the way, we’ve been tracking this over at “Bank Run” (on Facebook). If you have a Facebook account, we’d love for you to join:

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bank-Run/100827133310161

  11. Now hopefully this will put this puppy to bed for good. Yes we would like the role call that would be interesting. Thankyou to all that helped this NOT become law.

  12. leapfrog,
    YES … GREAT IDEA!!! How do we find out the names of the 185 that voted against this???

  13. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_FORECLOSURES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-11-17-17-36-49

    Looks like we won for now! I’d like to know the names of the 185 that voted against this…

  14. Why bother to play by their rule book.
    Screw all of them!
    How?
    Take back any empty house, move back into yours if you can.
    Squat in your own house, you paid for it, didn’t you?
    Take over and stop asking the banks permission to do what you need to do about YOUR OWN HOME!
    YOU CAN’T BE A DOORMAT UNLESS YOU LAY DOWN! STOP ACTING HELPLESS AND IN NEED OF RESCUE, BE YOUR OWN HERO! FIGHT BACK!
    WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN IF PEOPLE STARTED HARASSING THE BANKS? WHAT IF EVERYBODY GOT LOUD, NASTY, CLOSED ACCOUNTS, PULLED OUT MONEY, REFUSED TO PAY OVERDRAFTS?
    YOU KNOW, PICKET, PROTEST IN PERSON, GET ON TV! STOP BEING NICE!
    DON’T CALL THE OFFICE, CALL THEM AT HOME JUST LIKE THEY CALL YOU AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY! PHONE # ARE AVAILABLE ON THE INTERNET! MAKE THEM SUFFER LIKE THEY HAVE MADE YOU SUFFER!
    DON’T CALL THE OFFICE, SHOW UP IN PERSON WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE, DEMAND TO SEE THE CEO, PRESIDENT! REFUSE TO LEAVE UNTIL THEY GIVE YOU A SATISFACTION OF MORTGAGE, SIGNED AND NOTARIZED!

    YOU DON’T NEED A SHORT SALE, IF YOU GOT A BUYER, SELL ANYWAY AND DON’T TELL THE BANK ABOUT IT.
    TAKE YOUR PAPERWORK TO THE COUNTY RECORDER AND RECORD YOUR CLAIMS ON YOUR OWN HOME!
    YOU DON’T HAVE TO MOVE OUT.
    TAKE THEM TO COURT FIRST, SUE THE BASTARDS!
    DON’T WAIT FOR THEM TO FILE AGAINST YOU
    THE FIRST PERSON TO SUE USUALLY WINS!
    KEEP FILING LAWSUITS UNTIL JESUS RETURNS!

    WHY DO ALL THIS?
    BECAUSE IT’S ABOUT TO GET NASTY AS THEY TRY TO SPEED UP AND GET ALL THE FORECLOSURE PUSHED THRU BEFORE THE YEAR’S END!
    THEY HAVE A DEADLINE TO MEET AND THEY ARE COUNTING ON PEOPLE TO JUST ROLL OVER AND DO NOTHING BUT WHINE AS THEY FORECLOSE IN RECORD NUMBERS.

    WHY SHOULD WE OBEY ANY LAWS IF THE BANKS CAN BREAK ALL THE LAWS AND GET AWAY WITH IT?
    LAWS ONLY WORK AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO OBEY THOSE LAWS!
    THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE THAN LAW ENFORCERS BY ABOUT 2000 TO 1. THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH JAILS TO HOLD BUT A SMALL NUMBER OF PROTESTORS.

    DID YOU NOTICE?
    As soon as we started sounding civilized again, the banks got bolder and went back to foreclosing again.
    We got quiet because we thought, “Yeah, they are admitting their guilt, the govt going to investigate and next will be a national moratorium on foreclosures.”
    We thought we won!
    But nobody got arrested, nobody in power actually admitted that any fraud had been committed and they tried to pass this bill but it got pocket vetoed.
    Now they are gearing up to finish up what they started.
    We can’t afford to be civilized or let up for a moment in this war!

  15. http://www.deanmostofi.com/?p=1304

    Rejected! or so it says!

  16. Unless I misinterpreted, it appears that there were not enough votes to override the veto. So HR3808 lies dormant for now….

    What I don’t understand is why the vote fell along partisan lines (with so many Republicans voting to override the veto, and so many Democrats voting not to override).

  17. Alert 4:50 PM EST

    They are voting in the next 20 minutes:

    Get your states phone #’s easily here:

    http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/

    ————-

    #’s for Arizona:

    Representative Ann Kirkpatrick (D – 01) 202-225-2315
    Representative Trent Franks (R – 02) 202-225-4576
    Representative John Shadegg (R – 03) 202-225-3361
    Representative Ed Pastor (D – 04) 202-225-4065
    Representative Harry Mitchell (D – 05) 202-225-2190
    Representative Jeff Flake (R – 06) 202-225-2635
    Representative Raul Grijalva (D – 07) 202-225-2435
    Representative Gabrielle Giffords (D – 08) 202-225-2542

    Senator John McCain (R- AZ) 202-224-2235
    Senator Jon Kyl (R- AZ) 202-224-4521

  18. Did they vote on this today?

  19. I live in florida I just sent my Senators & Congressman this e-mail.
    “This bill would have the effect of TURNING WHAT WAS ILLEGAL INTO LEGAL, POST FACT. A violation of the US CONSTITUTION!
    It is sneak voting at its worse. I oppose this law since it is not only a way to grand father the fraud and crimes perpetrated by the Bankers, Lawyers and their entities including MERS making it all legal after the fact.

    Before we provide a legal bail out on these criminals we need to clean their companies and close those who have ruined the American economy. I hope you side with reason and justice. The INVESTORS and the home owners were defrauded and now these criminals want our congress and senate to wash their hands of their crimes and to further victimize the American middle class.
    Do not let this happen.

    Thank you for your service.

    John Anderson.

  20. I read in another blog about how this once again will be voted on “secretly”. Any merit to that? It sure as hell wouldn’t surprise me.

  21. Horrible. What do these scoundrels think they’re getting away with? Damn….we already have too many judges who pay no attention to the real issues…..now they will be forced to rule that lawlessness is the law.

    Oh, well, when they won’t obey the 10th Amendment, they could feel the wrath of the 2nd Amendment.

    Or, to put it another way: “Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil.”

  22. WISCONSINITES! LET’S GO!!!

    Senator Herb Kohl (D- WI) 202-224-5653
    Senator Russ Feingold (D- WI) 202-224-5323

    Representative Paul Ryan (R – 01) 202-225-3031

    Representative Tammy Baldwin (D – 02) 202-225-2906

    Representative Ron Kind (D – 03) 202-225-5506

    Representative Gwen Moore (D – 04) 202-225-4572

    Representative F. James (Jim) Sensenbrenner, Jr. (R – 05) 202-225-5101

    Representative Tom Petri (R – 06) 202-225-2476

    Representative Dave Obey (D – 07) 202-225-3365

    Representative Steve Kagen (D – 08) 202-225-5665

  23. Kickboxer thank you for contacting huffington post. I also contacted them.

  24. All Californians- here is who you have to contact as this is a national situation not a state one where it is supposed to remain!

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=CA

  25. Just contacted the Huff Po.

  26. Someone tell the Huffington Post!!!!

  27. Sneaky…not much time to fight them.

    I emailed our Senator and Congressman in my name and my wifes name. Then Faxed a short letter to them, and will call them in the morning, as well as my wife will call there washington offices.

    VOTE NO FOR 3808

  28. I thought the federal government could not force the state courts in regards to specific states foreclosure laws.

    What about this?

  29. Kaspersky Internet Security 2011, don’t hire any Techs they’ll expect that.

    We all know (well most of do) who is behind this. Israel and they always trump the FBI even when they were found to be involved in the 9/11. LOOK > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft9ApkkFS94

  30. If you do contact them you should be telling them that their treasoness acts will not be tolerated and no matter what demand their removal IMMEDIATELY, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT US. THEIR VIOLATING THE CONSTITUTION’S EXPLICIT LANGUAGE

  31. My understanding is that this bill was submitted UNOPPOSED by both sides of the floor…

    When in recess the automatically PASSES “unless” it is VETOED. Obama did NOT VETO this bill he merely did not sign it. The fact that is now re-introduced means if he does NOT sign – it passes.

  32. Email: jlsemidey@oriontechllc.com

    I just sent this letter to Mr/ Wolf in VA, I will get on to the other Senator and the Congress men as well.

    Comments:

    Dear Mr. Wolf, congratulations on your recent election victory. I am writing to you a note in total despair and frustration. A law by the name of H.R. 3808 will be voted in the next few days both at the House and the Senate. I oppose this law since it is not only a way to grand father the fraud and crimes perpetrated by the Bankers, Lawyers and their entities including MERS making it all legal after the fact.

    Before we provide a legal bail out on these criminals we need to clean their companies and close those who have ruined the American economy. I hope you side with reason and justice. The investors and the home owners were defrauded and now these criminals want our congress and senate to wash their hands of their crimes and to further victimize the American middle class.

    As a former Real Estate Broker I must side with the home owners the practices, the loans, the terms and the information that was withheld from us the American consumers, helped these bankers and their affiliates to unjustly enrich themselves and we the American taxpayers still bailed them out as well. I must insist and ask from you as our duly elected and properly serving Senator, to side with President Obama and assert his veto of this project of law.

    This will not make interstate commerce any better or faster, it will create an additional tool to steal, cheat and defraud the American families and businesses and to have foreign unregistered entities in the State of Virginia and others play bait and switch games where the person signing the document is in Virginia and the notary is in Florida, I see no way that could be a legal notarization at all. We must learn from our mistakes. We let the bankers rule our world and they stole from all of us. Let us not make it any easier. Please vote against this law H.R. 3808.

    Thanks for your attention, and may god bless you always.

    Jose L. Semidey

  33. @ all Californians,

    Here is the link to locate your reps:
    http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/yourleg.html

  34. Senate or house vote???

  35. I pity the congress person who votes for this bill they will be homeless in two years.

  36. CALL, CALL, CALL…Burn up the phone line. Send the message no more pulling things over on “The People”.
    Did they not hear us on Nov. 2

  37. Just contacted my representative and urging all my friends and family to do the same.

  38. The banksters, courtesy of the Fed, are also trying to gut rescission laws:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/zach-carter/the-feds-new-foreclosure_b_784280.html

    SIMPLY OUTRAGEOUS!

  39. There can be no doubt as to what citizens should do if the bill is passed and that is as Leapfrog suggested. There can be a resolution to the issue with the homeowner getting the justice they deserve for the wrongdoing of the banks. If President Obama allows this to happen, it will be the biggest tragedy of all under his watch. I am not sure that he cares at this point. There are investors waiting in the wings for the foreclosure train to keep moving and our government has made it easy for them to do just that. Buy those homes up for pennies on the dollar. Can the banks be defeated? We won’t know unless we try to make sure that there is a plan or a strategy that both the homeowner and the lender can accept. Why are these strategies not put before the Congress. They will not listen because they already have an agenda and it is to unload the troubled assets from the banks balance sheet so they can maintain their ratings around the world. But they have to get rid of the REO’s and they have a plan, why do we not have a plan. Living lies has given us so much information, yet no one has developed a plan that should be considered so we take nothing to the table other than law suits and they are getting ready to wipe those out. Where is our Plan of Action?

  40. Here was my message: “I expect you to stand with Obama’s veto of HR 3808. Our notarization rights should be within OUR STATE and not in control of the Feds. Furthermore, HR 3808 is a way to legalize mortgage electronic registration system (MERS). This pernicious entity, cooked up by the big banksters, has DEFRAUDED our state of millions (possibly BILLIONS) of dollars in revenue in the past 12 years. MERS must be left to crumble and so should the big banksters. My family and I are VERY, VERY TIRED of the bailouts to “Too Big To Fail,” and in NO WAY should MERS be legitimized or the big banksters subsidized ANY LONGER. There are over 7,000 HEALTHY local and community banks who are equipped to handle the fallout. Let Too Big To Fail FAIL!”

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